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[dx144]

Has anyone really read Fulgrim?

Because I was telling Ariocky about it last night/this morning and he was disturbed by what he heard in Fulgrim....

It was the bit near the beginning where they are approach Laeran and there is Bequa who tries to seduce Ostian the sculpture who is like the best in the Galaxy and is killed by Fulgrim when he says his work is too perfect =P

Bequa says to Ostian "I want you, right here, right now" and "It's not as if I'm going to hurt you. Well, not unless you want me to." This was on Page 49 and there is a bit before on page 48.

When Ostian rejects her offers she decides that she should stop him from going to the Laeran temple and unintentionally saving him from corruption and I guess his death at the La Venice when Bequa does crazy stuff with her voice that causes the audience to weep, make love and kill each other while some even hated it... =P

Anyway Ariocky didn't like the bit where the Laer are at their last temple and Fulgrim picks up the speaking sword that is SILVER! All the Laer around the sword are "in what looked like form some of grotesque sexual congress" Quoted from Fulgrim page 84.

Ariocky didn't seem to like that though...

So does the Imperium have these problems with sexual deviants? Because Bequa said that before going to Laer which was where the Rememberancers became corrupted and obsessed with recreating the Laeran temple that had colours that made you feel sick... EG Serena the painter lady used blood to make the colour look brighter because there was no shade of red the right colour.

Fuck knows what Bequa would have been like after coming back from Laer....

[Authrix]

From an inquisition RP on another site in the OOC thread: "can I have food, wine and some pleasure servitors?"
Rest of the group:"Dafuq no!"

So yes, the imperium does have them, it just chooses to keep them hidden in inquisitorial war bands.

[dx144]

Fucking Inquisition has everything.....

[ogreninja]

so let me get this straight ariok didnt like the bits near the beginning of the book have you told him about the stuff that happens later in the book yet?

[CruciasNZ]

I felt Fulgrim was a really messed up book where the author was trying very hard to get across a sense of their skewed moral compass but with very little experience in this area of writing

[ogreninja]

The author had to sit down with the head of bl and explain some of the more risky bits lol

[dx144]

He knows most of the stuff that happens. Ferrus has his head cut off, Fulgrim gives it to Horus with a smile then Horus knows Fulgrim is possessed, Ostian is killed and put his perfect statue of the emperor, La Venice is pretty much destroyed but still there, Noise marines are created, Fabius is on Ivstaan V collecting blood, bodies and flesh, lots of Emperors Children eating dead bodies of the Iron Hands, Fulgrim learns he was quite the dick to Ferrus when he thought Ferrus was stealing his glory when he was attacking the Diasporex fleet but Ferrus saved Firebird from destruction, Serena kills another rememberancer then uses his body to help create paintings also she stuffs his dead body in a barrel....

Other fun stuff happens.

Ariock has never liked the Emperors Children or Slaanesh =P

He thinks they are weird or messed up or something.....

[Authrix]

You don't say.

[dx144]

The Emperors Children are the best Legion. To join you had to be pretty much perfect. When you are part of the Emperors Children they did exercise or training all the time and just constantly tried to improve themselves.

Astartes physical fitness is always incredibly muscular so doing exercise is pretty much pointless. Emperors Children did it to keep a disciplinary standard.

They don't lack a discipline.

[ogreninja]

and thats how slaanesh managed to get its claws into them and change them their drive to excel and be the best was their downfall

[Draevan]

Ahh, what am I doing?! I can't be reading this, I have the first 13 books in the horus heresy collection (Including a fancy version of Aurelian) but I'm only just starting the second book! (cause I'm a slacker and don't read as often as I should) Spoilers they burn my eyes!

[dx144]

Well it was mainly the command structure of the Emperors Children. Which was Fulgrim - Lord Commanders - commanders - captains and so on. I think I got the general structure correct but for perfection you need to look up so Fulgrim taught The Lord Commanders and they taught the captains and so on.

Fulgrim probably looked to the Emperor for perfection but after Laer would have looked to Fabius and the Daemon as they gave knowledge to Fulgrim.

Fabius did make a good case though. The Emperors Children were never called perfect by the Emperor so they haven't achieved that status. Fabius as The Emperors Children it was their right to advance the Astarte genetically.

Fabius though knows far too much for an apothecary. Even a head apothecary. In the Reflection Crack'd Fabius knew all of Fulgrim's weak spots and his entire body.

Where did Fabius get this knowledge because in Horus Rising Vaddon head apothecary of the Sons of Horus tries to heal Horus after Horus is stabbed by anethame weapon that makes them take Horus to a tribal heal where Chaos then takes command.

Vaddon doesn't know where to begin on healing Horus though. Fabius knew Fulgrim's entire body though.

[Paladin Xenos]

The inquisition are like the preppy bitches of the warhammer universe

[Doomdrinker1]

Well you'll love the new book angel exterminatus (not so new anymore) imagine how fucked up the emporers children are at the end of fulgrim and now start the book with them already like that pretty fucked up. But still a good book.

[dx144]

Sounds pretty cool. I have read Reflection Crack'd which tells what the Emperors Children do after Ivastaan. Mainly about Lucius being the awesome fellow he is.

[Brother Agatone]

Yes, it was nice to eidolon get killed.

[dx144]

No one seems to like Eilidon... How the fuck did he become a Lord Commander...


From all accounts of what I have read he was a dick.
On Murder he tried to take Tarvitz's credit for destroying the Vox blocking tree things.

When he tries to speak as Horus's, Angron's and Mortartion's equal when Fulgrim was off dealing with the Iron Hands.

Only thing Eilidon did good was help create the Noise Marines when Fabius "upgraded" his body with the ability to screech the same as the witches on Ivastaab III. He was reluctant to have any more improvements and was persuaded by Fabius (Forced) to have the upgrades.

I was happy when Fulgrim cut off his head and raised his head above the victory wine and then the Emperor's Children drank it =D

[Doomdrinker1]

You might not like angel exterminatus much then.

[dx144]

I guess that is the book that follows on from Reflection Crack'd. Because at the end of that Fulgrim says they are off to go group up with his Olympian brother and build a city of mirrors. They also speak of the angel Exterminatus.

[Doomdrinker1]

Yep give good insight into the iron warriors.