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#61 Brother White

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:15 AM

I know I have no right to say any ting about this but base on everything said here gerhart kept on stepping out of bound of the rules and some knew this was going to happen to him

Why do he do this? For fun and trolling? The fact he thought he was a special case about not being banned since he was one of the founder, this I do not know but base on what cru is saying,he should have some sort of punishment but being ban permanently does seems a bit harsh, but maybe for a few weeks maybe for he must understand what he is doing and second chances should not be mess with (dern how ever is a different case, but forget about him), I believe everything is a different case, so if he was flaming, time to mature or this has no place for him

Just pure raging does not solve anything, either try and solve the problem calmly or move on


No evidence has been produced that he was trolling, are we just supposed to march in line and take his word over others? You can, I won't.

And from talking to Gerhart(He is my actual brother) He never raged on any thread.



#62 Dragon-Silver

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:20 AM

I wish people would stop having a go at Cru.
Refusing to believe that it happened doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
Cruzias and co. made the correct decision based on the evidence available.
Just because he was a Faction Leader does not exempt him from the rules.
Even though he might not have trolled you in particular [directed at everyone] that doesn't mean that he didn't do it.
Please just accept that the Council made the correct decision and stop complaining.
As for the lack of evidence, 11 people voted to ban him. They will have seen the evidence, but why should they share it with you?
Should the council post the details of every wanring done to any user on a public forum?
I think not.
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#63 Sammael

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:22 AM

I wish people would stop having a go at Cru.


This is it. Right here. The Yes-Men, those not willing to actually find anything out. Constructive criticism and mature debate is not 'Having a go'. Please, kiss some more ass, it's really helping.
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#64 Brother White

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:25 AM

I wish people would stop having a go at Cru.
Refusing to believe that it happened doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
Cruzias and co. made the correct decision based on the evidence available.
Just because he was a Faction Leader does not exempt him from the rules.
Even though he might not have trolled you in particular [directed at everyone] that doesn't mean that he didn't do it.
Please just accept that the Council made the correct decision and stop complaining.
As for the lack of evidence, 11 people voted to ban him. They will have seen the evidence, but why should they share it with you?
Should the council post the details of every wanring done to any user on a public forum?
I think not.


Um, I'm not a guy who just reads something on the internet and just belives it. I am not having a run at Cru and company. I just would like to see these documents he said he has, and judge it for myself.

I'm sorry I don't lie down and let anyone tell me anything.


#65 Dark War Paladin

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:25 AM

ive nvr had any troubles wit the mods in fact wen i barely was gettin registered here i was havin tech prob and cru was vry kind in helpin me.i recongise that order must rain in any community and trolls must b dealt wit.do i agree wit wats been done here? no i do not-in the Fist there is no tyrant that rules us-we correct our own-if we believed caz was out of line in his conduct here he wod have been spoken to-i personaly wod have talked to him.ask my brothers i dont stand for misrepresentation of my chapter.i dont think this was the only option u had for correctin him if u truly believed correctin was warrented-i think u cru and those most close to u used trollin as a smoke screen to get rid of a constant thorn in ur side.caz is outspoken and fearless-these charecteristics garner many enimies.i think his ban is the latetest exzample of ur abuse of power.this unjustice wont stand-i also want to say that im frens wit Sidller and the tru DAs r DERNS DARK ANGELS.
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#66 Dragon-Silver

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

I'd just like to point out that most everybody protesting against this are Crimson Fists.
You call us who wish to support the site and the auth yes-men?
You may not like the mods, but please trust them to do the right thing.
And Darkwar Paladin, I find your last comment extremely offensive.
You have no idea what Dern and Sidler nearly did to both the DA, and GW itself.
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#67 TheAnvilandHammer

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:34 AM

Wow this is very sad to hear...
maybe ill leave this site
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#68 fade

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:34 AM


I know I have no right to say any ting about this but base on everything said here gerhart kept on stepping out of bound of the rules and some knew this was going to happen to him

Why do he do this? For fun and trolling? The fact he thought he was a special case about not being banned since he was one of the founder, this I do not know but base on what cru is saying,he should have some sort of punishment but being ban permanently does seems a bit harsh, but maybe for a few weeks maybe for he must understand what he is doing and second chances should not be mess with (dern how ever is a different case, but forget about him), I believe everything is a different case, so if he was flaming, time to mature or this has no place for him

Just pure raging does not solve anything, either try and solve the problem calmly or move on



No evidence has been produced that he was trolling, are we just supposed to march in line and take his word over others? You can, I won't.

And from talking to Gerhart(He is my actual brother) He never raged on any thread.



Sorry about the misunderstanding about the raging part, what I ment is that some members is going overboard about this (it always happens)

I sure cru woundn't just target him for nothing, again I'm just basing on all these comments and some other members

I have nothing against him, i did fought him in space marine (honorable player) a few times and saw nothing wrong with his post but I rarely see his post, also I'm not siding with cru either

But I'm just saying the ban should not be Permanent


#69 CruciasNZ

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:35 AM

Anyone who agrees will be labelled a kiss-arse, anyone who objects will be labeled a crony. Enough is enough, the pointless back and forth shouting will serve no purpose.

The announcement was made, some voices voiced their agreement, others their condemnation. While I am sure people will now cry "we are silencing opinion" or whatever else floats their boat, the truth of the matter is that this thread has run it's course.

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