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[CryZice]

Why hello
This is a thread i just thought was really missing as well as the true gentleman seems to have disappeared from todays society and i am now calling out to see who still are true to code of real manliness.

Im just a caring guy who could wear a suit and tie just because it feels more natural who thinks about old fashioned values as something we should reinstate in todays society.

Some of the people today seem to have forgotten that what makes a man, It is not the amount of muscles on his body it is his caring and gentle spirit, his understanding for others feelings and well some who actually takes responsibility for their actions.

And what happened to the high fashion of men, i mean if you go and look in a store you will realize that it is about 60 % for the women 30 % for children and at its most 10 % clothes for the men mostly, according to me thats quite unfair, don't you think?

So imagine you in a room where you are in front of a open fireplace in a fancy suit or dress and maybe smoking a pipe, but on the internet what would you say?

Well i will heartwarmingly welcome thee to this virtual fireplace and this society of true gentlemen, lady or lord it dose not matter, just join the discussion.

Yours truly // The True gentleman CryZice 
The rules for this thread are simple keep the discussions about the subject of thread and be polite, i wont appreciate vulgarities and profanities so think about what you are saying and you will be fine.

[Fallen Angels95]

Well I was brought up like a gentleman as I lived with my grandmother for most of my life. I always treat a female with respect and would prefer a suit and tie to track suit bottoms and a hoodie. I prefer lifes comforts to drugs and the violence of modern society. Since moving from my grandmother I have lost some of that due to how my mother acts. I have had outbursts that were most ungainly but since then I have tried especially hard to regain my modesty. I hope to achieve a respectful place in society before I pass on. This thread is jist what I need to restore the gentleman in me. I have long endured people laughing at me for how I talk or hold myself when I walk. Just because I say 'glass' or 'grass' differently to them

Spoiler

how I pronounce it: glarss or grarss don't know if that helps

doesn't mean I don't have feelings or think myself better than them. I welcome this fireplace with a warm heart and an extra log

[CryZice]

Fallen i must say i kind of envy your upbringing as a gentleman a bit, as you say that you are aiming for a respectful place in society before you pass on, correct if im wrong but you are only 13 years old right?

Im not trying to be rude here but according to me you seem to have a quite large amount of time to grow in to the role as a true gentleman.

[Iron K]

Now you know me IRL Cry. I'm not a true Gentleman in any way. I know about it all; the dress codes, the way to act and talk, etc.
I just don't do it. I more of a "natural" guy. By "natural" I mean the true primeval human being of pure morbid evil and selfishness. Why? Because I like it that way.

That being said, I still appreciated the clothing, and the act of a true Gentleman. Its a pleasure to the mind and the body. One of my highest dreams is to own a suit from Savile Row. If that says nothing to you, you have no right to read or post anything in this thread...

Don't take this the wrong way Fallen.. (Ah, what the warp, take it anyway you want it, I really don't care...) But to be a Gentleman, I would think that you would have to be older. Even though you claim to have the upbringing of one, you still lack all life experience that it takes to be a Gentleman. You have to know a woman's touch, the unique flavors of a fine cigar, and most importantly, have seen all what life has to offer.

I have no doubt that you will grow into one, but to say you are one at the age of 13 is wrong. A Gentle Boy maybe, but Man? Not yet, young one. Best get yourself some hair on your chest first. But heed my words boy, when you grow into one, you WILL be better than everyone else. You just don't tell anyone that. That is what being a Gentleman is partly about.

Oh! And get a beard! A real man has beard! Am I right, Cry?

[Fallen Angels95]

I'll die young my friend I have always known that. People don't like me that much. All it will take is one wrong move. I'll be dead by 41

[CryZice]

well i do believe there has always been great men with fine facial hair through the history of mankind, although i see my self more as an gentleman but as you say iron about the age i do believe that age is one of requirements of a true gentleman.

But do you really think you will die young fallen, if thats the case what do you think people are reacting on to wanna have your head on a plate so to speak, is it maybe something you can do to change peoples opinion about you lad?

[Fallen Angels95]

Well its because they don't like my accent or how I walk & talk my friend. Unfortunately my taste in classical/heavy metal/rock music doesn't help as its all dubstep or pop nowadays

[CryZice]

Well let me just say this my friend your music taste is a minor thing but a big cornerstone of your emotions and your personality i do not think thats a problem except when your in school and the young yet to grow into respectful member of society have some sort of idea how everybody should be or behave and i am not telling you to change who you are just be your self and respect others for their choices as you seem to be victim of such discrimination you know you do not have to care about what immature people have to say or what they do just be your self and remember to not put anyone else through such treatment and be respectful to your elders and I think you will be fine.  
But to get back to subject, i do believe the gentleman has disappeared from todays society and we really should try to bring those old fashioned values need to be restored to make this world a slightly better place for everyone to live in.

[Fallen Angels95]

Thankyou. For that I would of given you a rep but unfortunately they have been cancelled. Instead I subscribed. I tend to ignore such immaturity now and just push ahead for my exams and coursework as im highly advanced for my age.

[CryZice]

As I think most of you know this site is a place created to bring people with the same interests together and as one of the biggest believe is games involving killing one and another i thought a good way to start up this thread with is the gentlemen's rules for dueling or as its actually named ¨The Code Duello¨

I will now post them all as a guideline for we who kill each other for sport and jolly good fun.

¨The Code Duello¨

Rule 1. The first offense requires the first apology, though the retort may have been more offensive than the insult. Example: A tells B he is impertinent, etc. B retorts that he lies; yet A must make the first apology because he gave the first offense, and then (after one fire) B may explain away the retort by a subsequent apology.

Rule 2. But if the parties would rather fight on, then after two shots each (but in no case before), B may explain first, and A apologize afterward.

N.B. The above rules apply to all cases of offenses in retort not of stronger class than the example.

Rule 3. If a doubt exist who gave the first offense, the decision rests with the seconds; if they won't decide, or can't agree, the matter must proceed to two shots, or to a hit, if the challenger require it.

Rule 4. When the lie direct is the first offense, the aggressor must either beg pardon in express terms; exchange two shots previous to apology; or three shots followed up by explanation; or fire on till a severe hit be received by one party or the other.

Rule 5. As a blow is strictly prohibited under any circumstances among gentlemen, no verbal apology can be received for such an insult. The alternatives, therefore -- the offender handing a cane to the injured party, to be used on his own back, at the same time begging pardon; firing on until one or both are disabled; or exchanging three shots, and then asking pardon without proffer of the cane.

If swords are used, the parties engage until one is well blooded, disabled, or disarmed; or until, after receiving a wound, and blood being drawn, the aggressor begs pardon.

N.B. A disarm is considered the same as a disable. The disarmer may (strictly) break his adversary's sword; but if it be the challenger who is disarmed, it is considered as ungenerous to do so.

In the case the challenged be disarmed and refuses to ask pardon or atone, he must not be killed, as formerly; but the challenger may lay his own sword on the aggressor's shoulder, then break the aggressor's sword and say, "I spare your life!" The challenged can never revive the quarrel -- the challenger may.

Rule 6. If A gives B the lie, and B retorts by a blow (being the two greatest offenses), no reconciliation can take place till after two discharges each, or a severe hit; after which B may beg A's pardon humbly for the blow and then A may explain simply for the lie; because a blow is never allowable, and the offense of the lie, therefore, merges in it. (See preceding rules.)

N.B. Challenges for undivulged causes may be reconciled on the ground, after one shot. An explanation or the slightest hit should be sufficient in such cases, because no personal offense transpired.

Rule 7. But no apology can be received, in any case, after the parties have actually taken ground, without exchange of fires.

Rule 8. In the above case, no challenger is obliged to divulge his cause of challenge (if private) unless required by the challenged so to do before their meeting.

Rule 9. All imputations of cheating at play, races, etc., to be considered equivalent to a blow; but may be reconciled after one shot, on admitting their falsehood and begging pardon publicly.

Rule 10. Any insult to a lady under a gentleman's care or protection to be considered as, by one degree, a greater offense than if given to the gentleman personally, and to be regulated accordingly.

Rule 11. Offenses originating or accruing from the support of ladies' reputations, to be considered as less unjustifiable than any others of the same class, and as admitting of slighter apologies by the aggressor: this to be determined by the circumstances of the case, but always favorable to the lady.

Rule 12. In simple, unpremeditated recontres with the smallsword, or couteau de chasse, the rule is -- first draw, first sheath, unless blood is drawn; then both sheath, and proceed to investigation.

Rule 13. No dumb shooting or firing in the air is admissible in any case. The challenger ought not to have challenged without receiving offense; and the challenged ought, if he gave offense, to have made an apology before he came on the ground; therefore, children's play must be dishonorable on one side or the other, and is accordingly prohibited.

Rule 14. Seconds to be of equal rank in society with the principals they attend, inasmuch as a second may either choose or chance to become a principal, and equality is indispensible.

Rule 15. Challenges are never to be delivered at night, unless the party to be challenged intend leaving the place of offense before morning; for it is desirable to avoid all hot-headed proceedings.

Rule 16. The challenged has the right to choose his own weapon, unless the challenger gives his honor he is no swordsman; after which, however, he can decline any second species of weapon proposed by the challenged.

Rule 17. The challenged chooses his ground; the challenger chooses his distance; the seconds fix the time and terms of firing.

Rule 18. The seconds load in presence of each other, unless they give their mutual honors they have charged smooth and single, which should be held sufficient.

Rule 19. Firing may be regulated -- first by signal; secondly, by word of command; or thirdly, at pleasure -- as may be agreeable to the parties. In the latter case, the parties may fire at their reasonable leisure, but second presents and rests are strictly prohibited.

Rule 20. In all cases a miss-fire is equivalent to a shot, and a snap or non-*CENSORED* is to be considered as a miss-fire.

Rule 21. Seconds are bound to attempt a reconciliation before the meeting takes place, or after sufficient firing or hits, as specified.

Rule 22. Any wound sufficient to agitate the nerves and necessarily make the hand shake, must end the business for that day.

Rule 23. If the cause of the meeting be of such a nature that no apology or explanation can or will be received, the challenged takes his ground, and calls on the challenger to proceed as he chooses; in such cases, firing at pleasure is the usual practice, but may be varied by agreement.

Rule 24. In slight cases, the second hands his principal but one pistol; but in gross cases, two, holding another case ready charged in reserve.

Rule 25. Where seconds disagree, and resolve to exchange shots themselves, it must be at the same time and at right angles with their principals, thus:

If with swords, side by side, with five paces interval.
 
I think this is something we all can learn from  
I am well aware that we cant follow these rules to the word but i think there some important parts from these rules we can really learn from, to make our gaming experiences with each other more pleasurable

[Fallen Angels95]

Wow. I skipped to the swordplay and general duel rules as I know how they start my good man

[CryZice]

Yeah i thought maybe it was a bit to much for one post but hey it is intresting to read about it i mean all those exchanging of Gunfire and an excuses between them is quite Fascinating , dont you think?

And it sort of makes me think of how it actually have been passed in some measurements on to this generation all though the majority have as i said earlier forgotten about it as well the gentleman way life.

[Fallen Angels95]

Yes well it would be good to see one of these played out on SM no?
I think it would be an excellent idea as well to have a forum area called 'the gentlemans club'

[CryZice]

Hahaha a most brilliant idea came to my mind, a chaos warband thats called the gentlemen marines wouldent that be quite Hillarious :3

[Fallen Angels95]

tzeentch worshippers as he's the most logical of the gods. That and we had loyalists called the emperors children lol

[Siddicus]

Much respect to you Cry for posting this thread.

However I am no gentleman and dont see this as a attack on you as a person but i know when to show respect and when to give none, that's just how i was brought up aswell as personal experience.

[Iron K]

I return once more, Gentlemen!

Answer me this. The rules for the Gentleman was established around the 18-century. Now, 200 years later, the rules and standard are the same. Why? Shouldn't the rules evolve as society evolves?

And another point. The Gentleman was evolved to be able to get close to some Ladies. But in this day and age, when the Gentleman is on the brink of being forgotten, the woman still cries out for a Gentleman. But where are the Ladies? Can anyone of you say that you have ever met a true Lady that was the same age as you?

[Fallen Angels95]

i have met three.

my old friend Elizabeth (not the queen )
Olivia who acted even higher than price charles
and juliet sadly though she moved away to barbados

[Iron K]

Okay, I have to question that.. Do you and I have the same definition of a Lady?

[Fallen Angels95]

I have no idea... Lol.