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#1 Brother Agatone

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 03:12 AM

Just thought I'd put this hear for the hell of it.

Most of my philosophies are cold hearted and may make me seem like an asshole, but I don't give a fuck, so who cares.

1. Incompetence is unjustifiable. The incompetent need to die as is the course of natural selection.
2. Life will fuck you up, so what you do? You fuck it up back, conquer everything.
3. Obesity should be left alone, if they are dumb enough to get this way then let them die. It's nature's modern crowd control considering plagues aren't getting it done these days.
4. People that lack intelligence do not deserve to be paid more than those who actually work for a living.
5. Acting is not a career.
6. If you don't believe in science, then get the fuck out!
7. There is no such thing as a participation award. Your either on top, or you're getting trampled to death by those trying to get to the top. There is no trophy for participating in life.
8. The math never lies.
9. Football is the modern equivalent of gladiator fights, only with more people and a scoring system. Why not just bring back gladiators?
10. If textbooks came in the form of video games, my A's would be 100s.
11. 99s are Bs, 98s are Cs, and 97s means you need to die or start studying.
12. If it's not in the olympics, it's not a sport.
13. Maybe a little bit communism in democracy would be good.
14. Vegetarianism is insanity.
15. War is just instigated crowd control. More people you have, the more conflict you get.
16. An A on a test stands for acceptable, but not fucking good enough.


If I have offended anyone, I apologize (kind of). These are just a few I have many more.
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:55 AM

With you all the way Agatone! :D

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:35 PM

I would enjoy 9 the most.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 02:01 PM

Never really understood vegans or vegetarians... People even showed me videos of how animals are treated and processed into food and asked me what I thought of it and I just said I was pretty hungry after watching the videos...

As for Football I think your talking about the American version as in Football its a non-contact sport, but even American Football doesn't allow you to kill another player on the pitch! =P

Although if people on life sentences or death row could become gladiators and fight to the death I think that would be pretty cool to watch. =D (Is that morally unacceptable?)

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 02:42 PM

17: When in doubt rub one out :P

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1. Incompetence is unjustifiable. The incompetent need to die as is the course of natural selection. [/quote]
Depends. I don't think someone should be shot on sight because they can't recite Beowulf perfectly line by line.
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2. Life will fuck you up, so what you do? You fuck it up back, conquer everything.[/quote] Nothing like a healthy dose of ambition for breakfast.
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3. Obesity should be left alone, if they are dumb enough to get this way then let them die. It's nature's modern crowd control considering plagues aren't getting it done these days. [/quote] So if my mother has a disease where she couldn't walk and thusly became obese, she should be left to die? Nice.
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4. People that lack intelligence do not deserve to be paid more than those who actually work for a living. [/quote] I agree with this. 100%.
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5. Acting is not a career. [/quote] Entertainment has its place.
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6. If you don't believe in science, then get the fuck out! [/quote] If you won't consider other people's experiences and points of view, then frankly I shouldn't consider yours.
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7. There is no such thing as a participation award. Your either on top, or you're getting trampled to death by those trying to get to the top. There is no trophy for participating in life. [/quote] But society is different. We're not in a dog eat dog world where only the strongest survive. Society can afford 2nd and 3rd place, and they can be successful. However, not everyone can win. Some people are destined to work in McDonalds perpetually.
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8. The math never lies.[/quote] Go read 1984.
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9. Football is the modern equivalent of gladiator fights, only with more people and a scoring system. Why not just bring back gladiators?[/quote] Yes. All of it.
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10. If textbooks came in the form of video games, my A's would be 100s. [/quote] They already do. You know those "Edutainment" games no-one touches? Yeah...
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11. 99s are Bs, 98s are Cs, and 97s means you need to die or start studying. [/quote] I don't know the American education system well (or even at all), but if this is /100 as I am assuming, then this is simply an unrealistic evaluation of your abilities. Applying this as a catch all statement means i should have been executed a long, long time ago. So your aware, my IQ is ~150, meaning I'm classed as a genius. Not to blow my own horn, but I think this speaks for itself.
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12. If it's not in the olympics, it's not a sport. [/quote] Pool, snooker, Lol (eSport, but still), Darts...
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13. Maybe a little bit communism in democracy would be good. [/quote] You know those "incompetent" people that need to die as per natural selection? You want to share with them? So they can leech off of you, potentially more so than they likely currently do?
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14. Vegetarianism is insanity. [/quote] Why should it matter to me what other people eat?
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15. War is just instigated crowd control. More people you have, the more conflict you get. [/quote] Doesn't mean war is always acceptable. Violence should only be a last resort. Unless it's a videogame, in which case it's the first resort :P
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16. An A on a test stands for acceptable, but not fucking good enough.[/quote]
... Really?

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 03:14 PM

To judge someones worth based on grades is bull shit IMO. Well done, you can do essays, but your fucking worthless at life and industry, have fun now...
Better they grow up training for a specific job than anything else.

Although if people on life sentences or death row could become gladiators and fight to the death I think that would be pretty cool to watch. =D (Is that morally unacceptable?)


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 03:39 PM

I think Human Rights activists would be against us JC....

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 03:41 PM

They lose their rights when they ignore those of others IMO.

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#9 dx144

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 03:54 PM

We could create "Running Man!"
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:05 PM

All.
Of.
My.
Yes.

We take Mirai Nikki and Takeshi's castle, put them together, and go from there.

It'll be glorious :D

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:50 PM

We take Mirai Nikki and Takeshi's castle, put them together, and go from there.

It'll be glorious :D


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:33 PM

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17: When in doubt rub one out :P

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1. Incompetence is unjustifiable. The incompetent need to die as is the course of natural selection. [/quote]
Depends. I don't think someone should be shot on sight because they can't recite Beowulf perfectly line by line.

More like if you lack common sense then maybe you should die.
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2. Life will fuck you up, so what you do? You fuck it up back, conquer everything.[/quote] Nothing like a healthy dose of ambition for breakfast.
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3. Obesity should be left alone, if they are dumb enough to get this way then let them die. It's nature's modern crowd control considering plagues aren't getting it done these days. [/quote] So if my mother has a disease where she couldn't walk and thusly became obese, she should be left to die? Nice.

That would be unprecedented in which they have no choice, and I would consider helping them with this disease, but should there ever be an apocalypse then I'd rather sacrifice them to hunt what ever hunts them or if it's a zombie apocalypse leave them behind to save other people (not other overweight people) or myself.
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4. People that lack intelligence do not deserve to be paid more than those who actually work for a living. [/quote] I agree with this. 100%.
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5. Acting is not a career. [/quote] Entertainment has its place.

It does, but I can't take seriously those who would waste time on a theater major and an ivy league school.
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6. If you don't believe in science, then get the fuck out! [/quote] If you won't consider other people's experiences and points of view, then frankly I shouldn't consider yours.

Science is truth, and until I see proof or a reasonable explanation then I don't care, but I reject it until then. This one delves into the fact that I view religion (mainly christianity, ironic considering my real names christian) as pointless and an excuse to kill one another (crusades, 9/11, the Holocaust, more crusades, conflicts between protestants and catholics), but thats something I do not wish to go into right now.
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7. There is no such thing as a participation award. Your either on top, or you're getting trampled to death by those trying to get to the top. There is no trophy for participating in life. [/quote] But society is different. We're not in a dog eat dog world where only the strongest survive. Society can afford 2nd and 3rd place, and they can be successful. However, not everyone can win. Some people are destined to work in McDonalds perpetually.

If 2nd and 3rd place is working at mcdonalds, then my point is right there.
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8. The math never lies.[/quote] Go read 1984.
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9. Football is the modern equivalent of gladiator fights, only with more people and a scoring system. Why not just bring back gladiators?[/quote] Yes. All of it.
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10. If textbooks came in the form of video games, my A's would be 100s. [/quote] They already do. You know those "Edutainment" games no-one touches? Yeah...

I've had them before I'm taking like a game like skyrim, yet you have to get certain equations right to get to certain areas or surpass certain levels, and then your perks are the ability to solve new equations or curriculum.
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11. 99s are Bs, 98s are Cs, and 97s means you need to die or start studying. [/quote] I don't know the American education system well (or even at all), but if this is /100 as I am assuming, then this is simply an unrealistic evaluation of your abilities. Applying this as a catch all statement means i should have been executed a long, long time ago. So your aware, my IQ is ~150, meaning I'm classed as a genius. Not to blow my own horn, but I think this speaks for itself.

The IQ test has been proven to not work everyone
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12. If it's not in the olympics, it's not a sport. [/quote] Pool, snooker, Lol (eSport, but still), Darts...
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13. Maybe a little bit communism in democracy would be good. [/quote] You know those "incompetent" people that need to die as per natural selection? You want to share with them? So they can leech off of you, potentially more so than they likely currently do?

More like make the politicians equal with the people corporations and people can give them money to support their views, and therefore causing problems, luckily their are some free thinkers left, but it is not enough.
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14. Vegetarianism is insanity. [/quote] Why should it matter to me what other people eat?

I don't care either, but when people start telling me that I shouldn't eat fucking meat, I educate them on why we are at this point in time. During part of evolution humans ate plants and that was about it, our brains were very underdeveloped. Next we start eating meat, and we start reaching our full potential due the addition of more protein of a different sort.
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15. War is just instigated crowd control. More people you have, the more conflict you get. [/quote] Doesn't mean war is always acceptable. Violence should only be a last resort. Unless it's a videogame, in which case it's the first resort :P

If you get too overcrowded, theres not much else that can happen peacefully.
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16. An A on a test stands for acceptable, but not fucking good enough.[/quote]
... Really?

I'm asian, this is singed into my brain everyday.
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:55 AM

ive got something real nice coming to this exceeding level of derp
this is gonna be fuuuuuuuny

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 01:19 AM

Let me tell you right now....you about to catch it


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 01:22 AM

this is how i felt when i saw this thread

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 02:19 AM

Quote:1. Incompetence is unjustifiable. The incompetent need to die as is the course of natural selection.

Before I go on a topological rant about how fucking stupid that statement is im going to put and leave this here
Although at school he was known as "Einstein", Hawking was not initially successful academically.-(Lets break out the pitchforks on one of the greatest minds in science guys! Incompetence = death!)


Quote:2. Life will fuck you up, so what you do? You fuck it up back, conquer everything.
agreed

Quote:3. Obesity should be left alone, if they are dumb enough to get this way then let them die.
So the abundance of increasing thyroid problems and the plethora of diseases now linking to obesity are now cause for death? Oh btw, the term obesity when used by its definition means anyone 10 pounds over their body mass index should be killed.
Im 6-1 my bdm index has me 11 pounds off, man im a fat fuck huh


Quote:4. People that lack intelligence do not deserve to be paid more than those who actually work for a living.

Quote:5. Acting is not a career.
Morgan freeman
Jack Nicholson
Since the beginning of common thought there has been those who could capture our attentions with their talent. Are you made because you can’t match them for it? Acting has been a valid trade since man could speak.

Btw, if acting wasn’t a career….why are ivy league schools dedicated to it


Quote:6. If you don't believe in science, then get the fuck out!
Hey bloodletting is a good idea!
Hey eating this warm rock cures plague
Oh if I burn the bodies this plague won’t spread.
Good job, remember science changes with the introduction of new fact and phenomena. Remember, at one time, To be black meant you were a demon by “science”

Quote:7. There is no such thing as a participation award. You’re either on top, or you're getting trampled to death by those trying to get to the top. There is no trophy for participating in life.
You are right; the award was initially taken as a way to help the special and weaker build confidence. In a perfect society these things wouldn’t need to exist, but guess what. In a world where Asperger sufferers, autistics, and other diseases like that exist, these people need to have their confidence built like any other. Sure YOU may not like it, but other people greatly benefit from it.


Quote:8. The math never lies.
In what regard, are you going to make an argument that can be disputed?


Quote:9. Football is the modern equivalent of gladiator fights, only with more people and a scoring system. Why not just bring back gladiators?
No, football is by no means similar.
Gladiators were slaves taken from their homes and put into a death game for the entertainment,. Closer relatives to the sport are Greco wrestling, mma, and boxing.
Last time I checked a team of football players were allowed to live if they didn’t kill the entirety of the enemy team


Quote:10. If textbooks came in the form of video games, my A's would be 100s.
If my mini tug was a firehouse I could put out fires. I can make obscure analogies too, doesn’t make it a philosophy


Quote:11. 99s are Bs, 98s are Cs, and 97s means you need to die or start studying.
Valedictorian of my school with a perfect 4.0 average,,, Now in college where a 97 is a common grade, if that’s how you perceive grades, wait until the day you have to do a 20 page recount of a work order you do for a computer specialist and have him grade it down because it isn’t how he would do it. And have to accept the grade.
Do me a favor and let me know the first time you get a grade lower than a 97, ill be waiting with a knife for you


12. If it's not in the Olympics, it's not a sport.
True, but someone playing pool in the Olympics is still in the Olympics, while you however are sitting here making your comments on a forum. In the end, they are still in the Olympics
Quote:13. Maybe a little bit communisms in democracy would be good.
Get the fuck out of my country
Remember your little comment of someone less educated not being paid more than someone with an education? Thank you for turning your own logic on itself. In communism it doesn’t matter your education, unless you are a party member you are still going to have your money pooled into the same pot as bill the door puller. They also dictate what you can watch and don’t. There’s a reason why communism fails, it’s because in the end, you can’t do it correctly


Quote:14. Vegetarianism is insanity.
Do I agree with the book beating from vegans? No, but to say its insanity? Are you insane?
Man was eating vegetables before they could even fathom catching meat, to sit here and make a comment like that is insanity. There are no diseases associated with vegetarianism, there are however a plethora of diseases associated with meat and its consumption and the harmful effects it has.

Quote:15. War is just instigated crowd control. More people you have, the more conflict you get.
There has not been a single damn war that someone woke up and said. Hey…We have too many people in this nation. Guess its time to kill them. War is a natural phenomenon that results in clashing of religions, morals, ideas, and sciences.
A better way to say this is , as long as you have people, you will have war.

Quote:16. An A on a test stands for acceptable, but not fucking good enough.
I’ve already debunked this statement, but lets make a point here. You better hope to god you ace and perfect every exam put before you. If not, I will wait here with the bear trap to clamp on your crotch.

In conclusion, if you are going to make a thread like this, don’t half assed apologize and try to make it look like your sorry. You aren’t, you don’t care, and these are your own misguided beleifs. You are entitled to have them, that is true, but with that right, the moment you post them for all of us to see it is now our right to debunk and pull them apart.

Well played , well played


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 02:22 AM

1. Incomptence. Although at school he was known as "Einstein", Hawking was not initially successful academically.
(and your post are barely put together, so.....)

2.Agreed, only valid point there is in that list.

3. There is a difference between letting oneself go willingly and then be in a situation where either it is due to a medical issue (Prader-Willi Syndrome), emotional issues that they are trying to over come, Or even mental issues.

4. This has been formatted in a way it is very vague and not specific.
If I understand it the way you might have meant it, I know intelligent people who are to damn lazy to get off there ass to find a job while the "people lacking intelligent" are doing everything they can to pay the bills and have enough to feed their families.

5. Jack Nicholson
Rober De niro
Marlon Brando
Morgan Freeman
Christopher Lee
Ian Meckellen
These people have a talent that few posses or mimic. For centuries there has been a need for actors to they can play out fantasies we dream in our own heads and put on a stage, the big screens, or the tv shows we watch on a daily basis. And I just don't mean the normal sitcoms, but modern and classic play wrights and broadway shows.The only reason I can see people decrying this career is A) they can not do it themselves and wish to have the same fame and fortune or B) because they seen those who act irresponsibly and generalize all actors.

6. Saying that if you don't "believe" in science, makes you no better than the numerous religious organizations that decry science in the first place. Science is a system of numbers, facts, formulas, ect. NOT another form of beliefs. Shall we dive into a bit of the dark ages science? Were bleeding out and blood letting where medically accepted practice? Sometimes, science can be wrong, it is apart of science. To always keep questioning, not just "Believe" it.

7. This is kinda funny if you think about it. Do you realize the true implied use of participation awards? Or are you sitting on a high horse and not seeing the functional use? The actual use of these awards are to build self confidence in someone who cannot perform up to par with others at that level. Its made to boost morale in a world that is already cutthroat world. When someone has no confidence in the first place, therefore not performing at 100%, has what self esteem and confidence that was left shattered because someone was able to do the same thing better. Now rather than trying to do even better next time, they are going to give up and never try at the thing they might actually be great at if they had the motivation to work for it. Something you have been saying over and over again isn't it?

8. In which context is this said in? In pure mathematical context? Where over the centuries several mathematical principles have been proven wrong? Or in when someone uses it, where human error can interfere or when the facts of the math can be twisted around for ones own gain?
Right, math can't lie.....
Like Authrix said, read 1984

9. In all honestly, fake wrestling is more close to gladiator fights for those fights to the death are made for entertainment of the masses only without any care for those fighting, not a sport where people take part in for as a career. While the use for the guilty and damn for such fights are enticing, what of the ones that were wrongly accused and found guilty due to errors in the system and circumstance? There is always those, are they to die for our mere entertainment? Besides, the gladiators were more often then not just slaves put into the area for the hell of it.

10. I bet if you put half the effort you did in games and this thread, your school work would probably be a breeze.

11. Besides the fact that it seems you are projecting ones own standards to all of those around you, I don't see a problem, shoot for the 100. I just want to see when you anything lower than a 100 to jump off a two story building and try to impale yourself on a toothpick. Considering it is the philosophy you so ardently believe in.

12. Why would you care? Those are international sports, where there are several local sports most people care more about then the olympics. The olympics is just a stage for nations, not people, to shine on and lord over other nations.

13. Communism, I applaud it on paper, but is not a system that works in practice because of one thing. People. You just have to look at Russia and all the other former U.S.S.R countries during the cold war to see that. No system is perfect, they only do a little better in certain fields.

14. No, veganism is insanity, being a vegetarian is a choice. Back during the times of our primitive ancestors, we did not have the huge selections of plants and vegetables that our society has access to that can substitute meat now a days. Yea, it is annoying to be lectured, about anything, doesn't mean they are insane.

15. No, crowd control is a natural consequence of war. Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage. From belief, greed, and simple genocide, crowd control is only a natural consequence, not an instigating issue.

16. Your Asian? Good for you. I grew up in a very racist German/Texan family, you don't see me trying to lynch my next door neighbor, who is black, or joining the Klan, now do you? Make your own expectations, not by ones made by others you find so damn hard to live by or don't even agree with.

Most of my philosophies are cold hearted and may make me seem like an asshole, but I don't give a fuck, so who cares
If I have offended anyone, I apologize (kind of). These are just a few I have many more.

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One of the most contradicting statements together in the same post.
They are not cold, they are misguided. Don't half-ass apologize, stand by what you say since you put this out for the public to see and comment on.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:12 AM

This thread seems to be turning more into a your beliefs differ to mine so I am off to correct you...

While were at we should also have a discussion over which religion is best...

Really just lock this thread before this thread has Surtur arrive and burn everything with a sea of flames....

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:34 AM

Mission accomplished, my goal was to see how long it took for some one to come up with reasonable rebuttals. Debate is what drives society, but seriously I only believe in half this crap. Every once in a while I get my friends together and we talk about our philosophies beliefs, and then we debate them. Of course, more than once, it almost ended in a shouting match. Most of the time we come out wiser and with more debate skills, so job well done. I purposefully made things sound to general to gage how you would interpret things. Basically this was like a psychological experiment to see how people react. I'm glad to find that most people are not that cold-hearted. Although, seriously about the grades thing. I'm asian, my parents basically ingrained that belief into my mind, and also being around other asians helped that too. As for when I say incompetence, general I'm implying common sense. If I mean't academics then technically 2/3 of my school deserve to die. I find that stating these false morals freak some people out, which is extremely amusing to me. Unfortunately, that was not the case here. Those that came back with serious answers I applaud you. For my next psychological experiment, lets see how you answer this question: A ball and a bat cost $1.10. The bat costs a dollar more than the ball. What does the ball cost? (try to work this out in your head or it defeats the purpose and tarnishes the results, and no this not an aptitude test)  Looks like I may getting an A on that psych test.
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Wait, I just thought of something. How much of this do you think are my real beliefs?
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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:25 AM

I got a better questions who do you think you are? experimenting with people hahaha how interesting sir, you got a problem if you allready have what you came for then i would like somebody to close this thread before more rage follows and no one should answer you, nobody should be your test subjects
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