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[Orion Gallo]

The death of space marine, dosent come from the shut down of its nonexistant servers, nor does it come from its lack of sales or even lack of DLC... No my brothers, it comes from the same disgusting psychological virus that eats every online game alive. Pro *CENSORED*. Douch bags that take the game WAY to seriously, to the point where fun and honor are nothing but trivial concepts for people who cant devote all there time and energy into the game.
Douch Bags that Must win every game at every cost because that is the only measure of skill in the Space marine universe.
And to *CENSORED* like that, I tip my hat...
I honestly have no problem with losing a game. Fuck I throw games because its more of a challenge trying to make a come back.
But when I hop into a random game, where 50% of the people who play are from a Chapter, I find myself facing an entire team of ass holes using only Vengance launchers, Meltas, and glitched out Thunder hammers, while they spawn camp my team, and I just ask myself whats the point?
The thing alot of people dont realize is that those "randomz" that play, are like the children of space marine. They are the people who buy this game from the 20$ deal bin at Wallmart and take it home to play.
Why the fuck would they keep playing, let alone pay for an online pass to a game where your constantly getting blown up from out of no where and spawn camped in the only 2 games you can find?
These so called "tactis" that a couple of the Chapters in Space marine are practicing, are killing the game. Mark my fucking words. This isn't a rant, this is a plea for sanity. If you want to spam weapons and tactics, and play like a douch...Play privately.
But if you care at all about this community growing, play with honor, and dignity, and for the fucking Emperor.. not for your selves.

[Xx Curze xX]

The death of space marine, dosent come from the shut down of its nonexistant servers, nor does it come from its lack of sales or even lack of DLC... No my brothers, it comes from the same disgusting psychological virus that eats every online game alive. Pro *CENSORED*. Douch bags that take the game WAY to seriously, to the point where fun and honor are nothing but trivial concepts for people who cant devote all there time and energy into the game.
Douch Bags that Must win every game at every cost because that is the only measure of skill in the Space marine universe.
And to *CENSORED* like that, I tip my hat...
I honestly have no problem with losing a game. Fuck I throw games because its more of a challenge trying to make a come back.
But when I hop into a random game, where 50% of the people who play are from a Chapter, I find myself facing an entire team of ass holes using only Vengance launchers, Meltas, and glitched out Thunder hammers, while they spawn camp my team, and I just ask myself whats the point?
The thing alot of people dont realize is that those "randomz" that play, are like the children of space marine. They are the people who buy this game from the 20$ deal bin at Wallmart and take it home to play.
Why the fuck would they keep playing, let alone pay for an online pass to a game where your constantly getting blown up from out of no where and spawn camped in the only 2 games you can find?
These so called "tactis" that a couple of the Chapters in Space marine are practicing, are killing the game. Mark my fucking words. This isn't a rant, this is a plea for sanity. If you want to spam weapons and tactics, and play like a douch...Play privately.
But if you care at all about this community growing, play with honor, and dignity, and for the fucking Emperor.. not for your selves.

dude i feel your pain -I played this game since day one and see what you are saying,but it is like that in EVERY GAME you play..tell me it is different in halo or call of duty or modern warfare orwhatever,take your pick-at least you paid 20 bucks for it and not full price like for the other games mentioned

[Orion Gallo]

I know that.
But This is the strongest community for this game, we should be saying some thing.

[Xx Curze xX]

I know that.
But This is the strongest community for this game, we should be saying some thing.

It is pointless to try --ppl are low and want to win or lv up or get a bonner and shot in their shorts for getting 30 kills--It is what it is--get in a chapter and then it will be a little easier to play because you will have solid ppl to cover you with their cheese tatics

[REAPER xDAx]

I agree with you Orion that facing a team makes it very hard for the other team win. The Community however has many people that enjoy playing Space Marine together and i don't believe that anything will change that.

[CotW]

The lag is what killed this game for me personally. There are a lot of other things that bother me about it and this will be a close second. Just because you can stomp the other team doesn't mean you need to. I hold back or choose a class I suck at. I can even tell other teammates to back off but not many do. So the other side gets squashed and we are stuck playing against each other in a 3v3 the rest of the night. Doesn't sound like fun to me at all.

I don't even find chapter battles fun anymore because of lag. Honestly every time we play a UK based team I see it. We play someone stateside it's still bad but I don't feel like I'm fighting the game itself. Combine that with a skilled crew and I see no point in playing anymore.

Don't even get me started on the bullshit politics that happens here since that has helped drive me away from both Space Marine and this site.

[REAPER xDAx]

The lag is what killed this game for me personally. There are a lot of other things that bother me about it and this will be a close second. Just because you can stomp the other team doesn't mean you need to. I hold back or choose a class I suck at. I can even tell other teammates to back off but not many do. So the other side gets squashed and we are stuck playing against each other in a 3v3 the rest of the night. Doesn't sound like fun to me at all.

I don't even find chapter battles fun anymore because of lag. Honestly every time we play a UK based team I see it. We play someone stateside it's still bad but I don't feel like I'm fighting the game itself. Combine that with a skilled crew and I see no point in playing anymore.

Don't even get me started on the bullshit politics that happens here since that has helped drive me away from both Space Marine and this site.

Totally agree with you on the bad lag in Space Marines. I live in Alaska and that can cause pretty bad lag for myself when playing people from all over the world. We will not get people to stop playing the game together but I also agree that the chapters could play less aggressive in public lobbies.

[XVulkan He'stanX]

i couldnt agree with you more orion, it feels sometimes like we are cannibalizing our own community and driving our selves out of a game that should be fun to play. its ok to want a challenge every now and then aka private matches but most of the time i jump onto spacemarine to have fun playing with my freinds, not to get stressed out and have to run wide open just to keep from being run into the ground. and all of us know spacemarine is capable of throwing some major BS at you on a regular bases (lag/exploits). and what i think orion was trying to convey REAPER xDAx was not the fact that your playing together with a group, obviously thats the most fun part, but how you play together. things like spawn camping, spamming, and other things are not need when playing random games, you dont always have to demolish the other team. Most of the time if we are playing a group of randoms and we end up taking all the caps we will then back up to our main points and at least let them come out and feel like human beings not lambs to the slaughter. i like trying to use weapons i dont normally use just for the fun of it because i know that i dont have to go out and fight for my life.

[REAPER xDAx]

i couldnt agree with you more orion, it feels sometimes like we are cannibalizing our own community and driving our selves out of a game that should be fun to play. its ok to want a challenge every now and then aka private matches but most of the time i jump spacemarine to have fun playing with my freinds, not to get stressed out and have to run wide open just to keep from being run into the ground. and all of us know spacemarine is capable of throwing some major BS at you on a regular bases (lag/exploits). and what i think orion was trying to convey REAPER xDAx was not the fact that your playing together with a group, obviously thats the most fun part, but how you play together. things like spawn camping, spamming, and other things are not need when playing random games, you dont always have to demolish the other team. Most of the time if we are playing a group of randoms and we end up taking all the caps we will then back up to our main points and at least let them come out and feel like human beings not lambs to the slaughter. i like trying to use weapons i dont normally use just for the fun of it because i know that i dont have to go out and fight for my life.

This was written well and I will try to get the DA to do some of the things that you suggested in this post.

[XVulkan He'stanX]

This was written well and I will try to get the DA to do some of the things that you suggested in this post.

thank you for the complement, but just to clarify, this was not intended to be a shot at your, or any other chapter, but more towards the community as a whole. the few times i have played with you have been enjoyable and you seem like an honorable battle brother, i didnt want my post to be veiwed as a slight towards anyone but more as advise.

[REAPER xDAx]

This was written well and I will try to get the DA to do some of the things that you suggested in this post.

thank you for the complement, but just to clarify, this was not intended to be a shot at your, or any other chapter, but more towards the community as a whole. the few times i have played with you have been enjoyable and you seem like an honorable battle brother, i didnt want my post to be veiwed as a slight towards anyone but more as advise.

I know that your post was not a slight towards myself or the DA. However we very guilty of just steam rolling over teams game after game. I will talk to my team about leaving there home point alone from now on. The Deathwatch and Dark Angels or both respected chapters. Others chapters would probably listen if you talked to them about your concerns.

[dandan3647]

Sure, I like to find ways to get behind my enemies in game, but I don't like to spawn camp. Besides, if I clear out one spawn, they start spawning on the other side of the map. I've done it before, it works. O_O Anyway, I couldn't agree with you more. Almost all the times I die, it's 9/10 the melta gun, heavy bolter, thunder hammer, or stalker bolter burst fire spammers. It makes the game enraging to the point of leaving the game and playing something. I love this game and don't want to see it die.

[SeperateTitan]

Valid pionts and opions. All of you are to be comended,for speaking on this issue. Here are some solutions i use myself to this problem when I can.

1) We all know he who the try hards are.When I see them in a lobby I quit.I simply will not play with them.

2) When I can I try to invite randoms to play with me on a team.This rarely works but sometimes it happens and we all learn alot from each other.

3) This one is my least favorit,But I will simply put in anther game.

As you can tell Bad English is my frist langue.

[Kokokacho]

This thread is giving me withdrawals. It has reminded me how awesome the game was before the glitches and the terrible lag and the BS started to kill the game for me. I remeber when I first started playing the game I was overflowing with murderous glee over the fact that someone had actually done a 3rd person shooter that let you be a freakin SPACE MARINE, and they had done it right.

[SpecSlaughter22]

hoorah fuckin orion! spawn camping douchebags! ive had one particular douchebag tell me " you were going to kill me with your heavy bolter so i meltad you in your spawn". this game isnt about making the other team feel under powered by spamming the bullshit weapons and killing them before thwy can help thwor team its about killing people fair and square. i also agree with cotw that the politics have driven me away from both the game and gwrs. i dont know why i would expect anything less though because the male ego is soooo fucking fragile its rediculous. ill say this for the "*CENSORED*" . congrats on winning games with your spam and camp but you will slip and lose eventually. if not i will eat my damn shoe...the strawberry one.

[CotW]

This thread is giving me withdrawals. It has reminded me how awesome the game was before the glitches and the terrible lag and the BS started to kill the game for me. I remeber when I first started playing the game I was overflowing with murderous glee over the fact that someone had actually done a 3rd person shooter that let you be a freakin SPACE MARINE, and they had done it right.

I hear you man! When I started playing this game I would be painting minis while in the lobby waiting for the next round. Now you need to bring your A game or not bother which is just too much work for a game.

Playing with randoms isn`t so fun anymore either since my skill is too far ahead of them. I get killed if I face many of the people here but do the same to everyone else leaving me with little middle ground to have fun with.

[CruciasNZ]

I remember when I first unlocked the Devastator class for multi-player, and I setup my HB on Waste Management. I remember the pure thrill and satisfaction of mowing down my opposition with high explosive fast firing doom. I had so much fun as a Devastator on that game pre-lag "fix" patches. That's not even mentioning how awesome you felt mashing your way through Orks on campaign

[REAPER xDAx]

I currently have a long post in the Dark Angels private section talking about this topic. My team is slowly starting to understand that we can still win games by 900 points and not go to there home point. Orion had a good idea and I hope other chapters will consider what he has said.