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This is not an open debate about whats cheap, and how individuals like to play. I'm looking to my Brothers here, to help me bring this all together, and create a list of SOPs that the factions can choose from to play sanctioned matches in.
This IS NOT a thread about who thinks melta spamming is cheap, or who spammed whom last week, or any and all things not directly pertaining to this next statement.
In this thread, is the basic skeletal rubric for the beta version 2.1 of the gothic wars "Combat Codex" where you will find an over iew and explination of the core doctrines, basic application and the new "Chapter Match" ( which I will refer to as "sanctioned match" ) Round template. While I greatly encourage questions and clarifications, as you will see this is a very interactive and audiance participation is required. I only ask that you begin playing the SOPs as soon as today.
Why? Because we need all the feedback we can get to tailer this to our needs, that and who do you think is creating these things? Yes, the leaders and mods made the first few, the rest are coming from you. Devise, dictate and deliver your ideas to this forum, (unless crucias could create a sub forum for the proposal and the voting, to keep it a neat) post your idea, perhaps some backstory or why you like it. (I will be pming a good amount of you to request your help in play testing.) From there organize a few test runs and have those involved post their findings. Again I feel that 15 core SOPs (standard operation procedures, or I like styles of play) is a good starting number, and thus, all sanctioned matches are heretofore only to be played by those rules. As we get more used to them, and have a smooth flow going with these ( and the CALANDAR IS GOING TO MAKE THIS SO SIMPLE! Thank again cotw!) we can start perment fly expanding the list. And FYI if a two factions want to face each other without using the list, have at it, as long as both leaders agree to the terms , and aknologe it by posting such in this thread. Because to be honest if this pissy and cancerous attitude after matches don't go someone's way, so now we will go I. GW and cause drama (Everyone is right, because at that point you're all wrong.) doesn't come to an end soon, I will just walk away, and I know I won't be alone in this.
From there we can work on applying it to anything else.
(To further clarify, I have stated this in posts before, and COTw has also added his voice as well)
This seems almost silly to have to say, but I want to cover all my bases here...
If you like playing a certain type of (tactic/role/game type/weapon/map), you should not only discuss this with the faction leaders, but with the faction as a whole. In fact, each faction should set up a sub forum for this discussion, if for no other reason then decide what the faction is willing to play, and what they prefer to play.( you just may get surprised)
Conversely, if you abhor a certain (tactic/role/game type/weapon/ or map)... This should also be discussed in the aforementioned sub forum.
Going one step further, I feel that we need to establish at least 15 S.O.Ps ( standard operating procedures, OR systems of play) that can be universally agreed upon, and easier to communicate (and therefore clarify, and thus eliminate comments like " oh I didn't know we were playing without (x)" ) between chapter masters(game organizers) and within the chapters themselves.
Ex:
The Grey Knights
challenge
The Emperor's first Legion:
The Dark Angels
Best of 5
2 rounds Seize Ground:
Knights Templar, 2500 PTs
2 rounds CTF:
True sons of the Emperor, 5 caps
1 round Annihilation:
Armageddon, 100 kills.
The SOP's:
Knights Templar:[/b][/u]
Named for the first no perks advocates here on gothic wars, game type is simple, no perks FF on. Here's to you Ordo.
True Sons of the Emperor:
Another product of lore based 40k fanboy isms made real through Space Marine...
The game is fought with the iconic weapons the God-Emperor of mankind always intended for us to use...
Bolters and Blades only Brothers. (this includes bolt pistols, along with bolters, stalker and storm bolters, and knives gentalmen)
Tactical classes only, with no perk limitation.
FF on.
Armageddon:
Think of the Battles for Armageddon...
Free for all.
FF on.
The Emperors Gauntlet:
I will let ordo send me his synopsis, but for now it's posted in the Templar section.
Bolt Pistols & Butter knives:
Pistols and knives only, tac and dev allowed.
FF on
I would eventually like to see something like a separate page on gothic wars, dedicated to the discussion, and testing of new SOGs that the Community would be encouraged to develop. They could post a poll explaining there idea, and if say 20 people vote it we will play test it, at an agreed time, the 20 people who voted (or should I say volunteered) will play a 2 of 3 and report their over all findings. If its well received we can add it to the official list of SOGs for sanctioned Chapter matches.
Finally I would also like to point out the match structure I used above.
I think this would be ideal frame work for how sanctioned matches are played. I am speaking of the "Best of 5• 2,2,1" layout.
2 matches of one game type , with each team choosing a map/alternating hosting and one team getting the choice of the SOG
2 matches of another(or the same) game type, again each team choosing a map, and the other team now choosing the SOG.
I would say the unwritten rule here being, (just my opinion) both games, for both teams are to be fully competed, regardless of whether someone reaches 3 or not. Out of mutual respect for one another, if you play according to one, you play according to the other.
The final match being a FFA death match, sudden death.
Map choice going to the team with the lowest combined overall score.
*note that the final match does not have to be FFA or annihilation. So long as both teams agree on the terms, and post them on the public challenge forum.
I look forward to hearing what you think.
Mongo: out.
Post Script:
While posted in the mod forums some questions arose, so for the sake of brevity, here...
While there is no intent to create a single set of rules and restrictions for every game to be played by, I do feel that the creation of the SOPs (I think 15 would be a good number to start with) is one of the better options out there for us right now. The new SOPs will add life and fresh air, into the rather stagnant gameplay options we have now. It should also all but remove the term SPAM from a large part of the conversations( and can I tell you how much that word irks me now)
Gerhart made some great comments on this when I posted a test version, and I would just like to thank him again and ask that if you haven't already, you should all rep him. While he and I have not shared the same opinion about many things, over the past weeks as I've become more active here, he has garnered a great deal of my respect...
Anyway Gerhart, thanks.
